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<Upper-Intermediate> Lesson No.16

Debating ESG investments / ESG投資の是非をめぐる投資委員会ディスカッション

0.Greetings & Ice-break (2min.)|挨拶と導入

 

0-1 Greetings

Let’s practice a short small talk that you can use to greet a business partner and start building a good relationship.

講師との挨拶を兼ねて、ビジネスパートナーと信頼関係を築くための短いスモールトークを練習してみましょう。

[Tips / 会話のヒント]

・Can you hear me clearly? 

 私の声はクリアに聞こえますか?
・How's your day going so far?

 今日はどんな一日でしたか?
・Talk about one small topic (Work, Weather, News, Hometown, Sports event, etc.)

 軽い話題について話しましょう(仕事、天気、ニュース、地元、スポーツイベントなど)

0-2 Introduction​

In today’s lesson, we’ll learn about the following situation. Have you ever experienced something similar?

本日のレッスンでは以下のようなシチュエーションについて学びます。同様のシチュエーションを経験したことがありますか?​

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- If you have experience, please tell us what it was like, what was difficult, or what you learned.

   経験があれば、どんな内容だったか、難しかったことや学んだことなどを教えて下さい。 

- If you don’t have experience, try to imagine yourself handling that situation in English.

  What do you think would be challenging?

  経験がなければ、英語でその状況に対応しているところを想像してみましょう。どんなことが難しそうですか?

Situation / シチュエーション

Committee members grapple with balancing financial returns against environmental and social responsibility criteria in investment decisions.
委員会メンバーが、投資決定において財務リターンと環境・社会的責任基準のバランスを取ることに取り組む場面です。

1. Read (2 min)|型を学ぶ
Let's read the following key sentences aloud!
下記の文章や単語を順番に音読しましょう!

1-1 Basic phrases
1.I believe we should balance...(...をバランスさせるべきだと考える)
2.Let me explain our approach...(私たちのアプローチを説明させてください)
3.We will select companies with...(...を持つ企業を選定する)
4.We need to prepare...(...を準備する必要がある)
5.We can show them that...(...ということを示すことができる)
6.We will use a combination of...(...の組み合わせを使用する)
7.This ensures we do not sacrifice...(これにより...を犠牲にしないことを保証する)

1-2 Essential words
1.balance(バランスさせる)
2.reduce(減らす)
3.deliver(提供する)
4.explain(説明する)
5.accept(受け入れる)
6.select(選定する)
7.avoid(回避する)
8.prepare(準備する)
9.mention(言及する)
10.require(要求する)
2. Try  (3 min)|ロールプレイ練習

Let’s practice the role-play.

ロールプレイの練習をしましょう!

Situation / シチュエーション(Reference again)

Committee members grapple with balancing financial returns against environmental and social responsibility criteria in investment decisions.
委員会メンバーが、投資決定において財務リターンと環境・社会的責任基準のバランスを取ることに取り組む場面です。

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Thank you for joining today's committee meeting. We need to discuss the portfolio strategy for our university endowment fund. Should we prioritize profitability or ESG scores when selecting investments?
(本日の委員会にご参加いただきありがとうございます。大学基金のポートフォリオ戦略について議論する必要があります。投資を選定する際、収益性とESGスコアのどちらを優先すべきでしょうか?)
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
Thank you for raising this important issue. I believe we should balance both factors. First, profitability ensures the fund can support university operations. Second, strong ESG scores reduce long-term risks. Third, many high-ESG companies also deliver stable returns.
(この重要な問題を提起していただきありがとうございます。両方の要素をバランスさせるべきだと考えます。第一に、収益性は基金が大学運営を支えることを保証します。第二に、高いESGスコアは長期的なリスクを減らします。第三に、多くの高ESG企業は安定したリターンも提供します。)

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
I understand your point, but our stakeholders expect clear financial results. How can we justify lower returns if we focus too much on ESG?
(あなたの指摘は理解できますが、ステークホルダーは明確な財務結果を期待しています。ESGに重点を置きすぎて低いリターンになった場合、どう正当化できますか?)
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
Let me explain our approach. We will not accept significantly lower returns. Instead, we will select companies with both strong ESG performance and solid financial fundamentals. Research shows that companies with high ESG scores often avoid major scandals and regulatory penalties, which protects long-term value.
(私たちのアプローチを説明させてください。著しく低いリターンは受け入れません。代わりに、ESGパフォーマンスと堅実な財務基盤の両方を持つ企業を選定します。調査によると、高いESGスコアを持つ企業は大きなスキャンダルや規制上の罰則を回避することが多く、これが長期的な価値を守ります。)

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
That makes sense, but what if we face pressure from donors who only care about financial performance? They might question our investment decisions.
(それは理にかなっていますが、財務パフォーマンスだけを気にする寄付者からの圧力に直面したらどうしますか?彼らは私たちの投資判断に疑問を持つかもしれません。)
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
We need to prepare clear communication materials. We can show them that our ESG-focused portfolio has delivered competitive returns over the past 5 years. We should also mention that younger alumni increasingly expect the university to invest responsibly. This approach helps maintain donor relationships across generations.
(明確なコミュニケーション資料を準備する必要があります。ESG重視のポートフォリオが過去5年間で競争力のあるリターンを提供してきたことを示すことができます。また、若い卒業生が大学に責任ある投資を期待していることも言及すべきです。このアプローチは世代を超えた寄付者との関係維持に役立ちます。)

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Good point. One more concern: how do we measure ESG performance consistently? Different rating agencies use different standards.
(良い指摘です。もう一つの懸念があります。ESGパフォーマンスをどのように一貫して測定しますか?異なる評価機関が異なる基準を使用しています。)
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
We will use a combination of three major ESG rating providers to avoid relying on a single methodology. We will also set minimum thresholds for both financial returns and ESG scores. For example, we require at least 6 percent annual return and a top 30 percent ESG ranking in each sector. This ensures we do not sacrifice either dimension.
(単一の方法論に依存しないよう、3つの主要なESG評価プロバイダーの組み合わせを使用します。また、財務リターンとESGスコアの両方に最低基準を設定します。例えば、年間少なくとも6パーセントのリターンと各セクターでトップ30パーセントのESGランキングを要求します。これにより、どちらの側面も犠牲にしないことを保証します。)

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
That sounds like a practical framework. Let me confirm: you propose a dual-criteria approach with clear minimum standards for both profitability and ESG performance, correct?
(それは実用的な枠組みのようですね。確認させてください。収益性とESGパフォーマンスの両方に明確な最低基準を持つ二重基準アプローチを提案しているということですね?)
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
Yes, exactly. We balance both priorities by setting quantitative thresholds. This way, we can meet financial obligations while aligning with the university's values. We should review the criteria annually to ensure they remain appropriate.
(はい、その通りです。定量的な基準を設定することで両方の優先事項をバランスさせます。このようにして、大学の価値観に沿いながら財務的義務を果たすことができます。基準が適切であり続けるよう、毎年見直すべきです。)

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Excellent. I appreciate your thorough analysis. Let's prepare a detailed proposal based on this framework and present it to the full board next month. Thank you for your work on this.
(素晴らしい。徹底的な分析に感謝します。この枠組みに基づいた詳細な提案を準備し、来月の理事会全体に提示しましょう。この件についてのあなたの仕事に感謝します。)
3. Use  (4 min)|ロールプレイ & 実践(空欄補完)

Let's perform the role-play and fill in the blanks by translating the Japanese into English!
空欄の日本語を英語に訳しながら、ロールプレイを実践してみましょう!

Situation / シチュエーション(Reference again)

Committee members grapple with balancing financial returns against environmental and social responsibility criteria in investment decisions.
委員会メンバーが、投資決定において財務リターンと環境・社会的責任基準のバランスを取ることに取り組む場面です。

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Thank you for joining today's committee meeting. We need to discuss the portfolio strategy for our university endowment fund. Should we prioritize profitability or ESG scores when selecting investments?
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
Thank you for raising this important issue. I believe we should [バランスさせる] both factors. First, profitability ensures the fund can support university operations. Second, strong ESG scores [減らす] long-term risks. Third, many high-ESG companies also [提供する] stable returns.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
I understand your point, but our stakeholders expect clear financial results. How can we justify lower returns if we focus too much on ESG?
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
Let me [説明する] our approach. We will not [受け入れる] significantly lower returns. Instead, we will [選定する] companies with both strong ESG performance and solid financial fundamentals. Research shows that companies with high ESG scores often [回避する] major scandals and regulatory penalties, which protects long-term value.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
That makes sense, but what if we face pressure from donors who only care about financial performance? They might question our investment decisions.
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
We need to [準備する] clear communication materials. We can show them that our ESG-focused portfolio has delivered competitive returns over the past 5 years. We should also [言及する] that younger alumni increasingly expect the university to invest responsibly. This approach helps maintain donor relationships across generations.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Good point. One more concern: how do we measure ESG performance consistently? Different rating agencies use different standards.
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
We will use a combination of three major ESG rating providers to [回避する] relying on a single methodology. We will also set minimum thresholds for both financial returns and ESG scores. For example, we [要求する] at least 6 percent annual return and a top 30 percent ESG ranking in each sector. This ensures we do not sacrifice either dimension.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
That sounds like a practical framework. Let me confirm: you propose a dual-criteria approach with clear minimum standards for both profitability and ESG performance, correct?
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
Yes, exactly. We [バランスさせる] both priorities by setting quantitative thresholds. This way, we can meet financial obligations while aligning with the university's values. We should review the criteria annually to ensure they remain appropriate.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Excellent. I appreciate your thorough analysis. Let's prepare a detailed proposal based on this framework and present it to the full board next month. Thank you for your work on this.
4. Challenge (7 min)|応用実践

Let's perform the role-play and fill in the blanks by translating the Japanese into English!
空欄の日本語を英語に訳しながら、ロールプレイを実践してみましょう!

*Let's practice this part repeatedly until we can speak it smoothly.

  このパートはスムーズにスピーキングできるようになるまで繰り返し練習しましょう。

Situation / シチュエーション(Reference again)

Committee members grapple with balancing financial returns against environmental and social responsibility criteria in investment decisions.
委員会メンバーが、投資決定において財務リターンと環境・社会的責任基準のバランスを取ることに取り組む場面です。

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Thank you for joining today's committee meeting. We need to discuss the portfolio strategy for our university endowment fund. Should we prioritize profitability or ESG scores when selecting investments?
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
Thank you for raising this important issue. [両方の要素をバランスさせるべきだと考えます。] First, profitability ensures the fund can support university operations. Second, strong ESG scores reduce long-term risks. Third, many high-ESG companies also deliver stable returns.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
I understand your point, but our stakeholders expect clear financial results. How can we justify lower returns if we focus too much on ESG?
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
[私たちのアプローチを説明させてください。] We will not accept significantly lower returns. [代わりに、ESGパフォーマンスと堅実な財務基盤の両方を持つ企業を選定します。] Research shows that companies with high ESG scores often avoid major scandals and regulatory penalties, which protects long-term value.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
That makes sense, but what if we face pressure from donors who only care about financial performance? They might question our investment decisions.
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
[明確なコミュニケーション資料を準備する必要があります。] We can show them that our ESG-focused portfolio has delivered competitive returns over the past 5 years. We should also mention that younger alumni increasingly expect the university to invest responsibly. This approach helps maintain donor relationships across generations.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Good point. One more concern: how do we measure ESG performance consistently? Different rating agencies use different standards.
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
We will use a combination of three major ESG rating providers to avoid relying on a single methodology. We will also set minimum thresholds for both financial returns and ESG scores. For example, we require at least 6 percent annual return and a top 30 percent ESG ranking in each sector. This ensures we do not sacrifice either dimension.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
That sounds like a practical framework. Let me confirm: you propose a dual-criteria approach with clear minimum standards for both profitability and ESG performance, correct?
🧑‍🎓【Student / MBA Investment Analyst】:
Yes, exactly. We balance both priorities by setting quantitative thresholds. This way, we can meet financial obligations while aligning with the university's values. We should review the criteria annually to ensure they remain appropriate.

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Excellent. I appreciate your thorough analysis. Let's prepare a detailed proposal based on this framework and present it to the full board next month. Thank you for your work on this.
\ If you have some extra capacity, give it a try(余力があればやってみましょう)/
5. Real-world application (5 min)|実務応用

Let's speak freely with the phrases and flow we learned today. If you can, imagine your real job—it makes practice more effective.
本日学習した単語やフレーズ、会話の流れを思い出しながら、自由に話してみましょう。可能であれば、自身の実務を想像しながら話すと効果的です。​

Situation / シチュエーション
You are an MBA student presenting an investment strategy to the university endowment fund committee.
The committee chair asks you to explain whether profitability or ESG scores should be prioritized.
あなたはMBA学生として大学基金委員会に投資戦略を提示しています。
委員会の議長が収益性とESGスコアのどちらを優先すべきか説明するよう求めています。

👨‍💼【Teacher / Investment Committee Chair】:
Please explain your recommendation on balancing profitability and ESG performance for our endowment fund. How would you address concerns from stakeholders who prioritize financial returns?
(基金の収益性とESGパフォーマンスのバランスについてのあなたの推奨事項を説明してください。財務リターンを優先するステークホルダーからの懸念にどう対処しますか?)

🧑‍🎓【Student / Your Role】:
(Free Speaking based on today's lesson)

Hints / ヒント
1. Explain the dual
2. Describe the selection process
3. Present the communication strategy
4. Clarify the measurement framework
​※This is not a role-play. Please speak until you finish your thoughts.
 このパートはロールプレイ形式ではありません。最後まで通して話してみましょう。
6.  Wrap-up (2 min) |レッスンの振り返り

Let's review today's lesson with your teacher!
今日のレッスンについて講師と振り返ってみましょう!

 

6-1 Comments from student

・Good points / 良かったところ・上手くできたところ
・Things to work on / 今後強化したいところ

 

6-2 Feedback from teacher

・Good points / 良かった点
・Things to work on / 今後の強化ポイント
・What to review / 復習ポイント

 

*6-3 Questions from student (if any)

Japanese translation(日本語訳)

1. Read (2min)(型を学ぶ)|基本フレーズ

2. Try  (4min)(ロールプレイ練習)|型を使った練習
Let’s practice the role-play.
ロールプレイの練習をしましょう!

3. Use  (7min)|応用
Let’s perform the role-play and filling in the missing English!
英語を補完しながら、ロールプレイを実践してみましょう!

4. Challenge (7min)|実践
Let’s perform the role-play and filling in the missing English!
英語を補完しながら、ロールプレイを実践してみましょう!

5. Wrap-up (3min) – レッスンの振り返り

"Let’s review today’s lesson with your teacher!”

「今日のレッスンについて講師と振り返ってみましょう!」

5-1.  Comments from Student

  - Good points / 良かったところ・上手くできたところ

  - Things to work on / 今後強化したいところ

5-2.  Feedback from Teacher

  - Good points / 良かった点

  - Things to work on / 今後の強化ポイント

  - What to review / 復習ポイント

5-3. Question from Students (If any)

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